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Bootstrapping, Burnout, the Power of Community, and Zapnito

CEO Q&A with Charles Thiede


I had the pleasure of interviewing Charles Thiede, co-founder and CEO of Zapnito. Before this interview, I’d been lucky enough to have some great lunches, dinners, and coffees with Charles and have always walked away with a pocketful of good advice and insight. We were finally able to get him on the show, and I’m really happy with the result.

Zapnito is a SaaS community platform built to showcase expertise. Today, companies are using it to create branded expert networks that promote thought leadership, increase revenue, and build engagement and trust with their audiences.

Charles and I dive into several different rabbit holes, including his journey to founding Zapnito and ultimately making the leap to full-time, the benefits of bootstrapping, being mindful of burnout as an executive, and the power of community and how Zapnito is playing in the space.

I had a great time speaking with Charles, and I hope you enjoy this interview as much as I did.

To hear the full interview, please listen to the Outsell Podcast. It can be found on iTunes, Stitcher and Sound Cloud. Thanks for reading!